L&C, Why?

[phoneman]

Wolfe, it might be better to restart this in the L&C discussions thread, not this one. Again, just start with the same post you did before, except please the f/f line.

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by phoneman

Wolfe, it might be better to restart this in the L&C discussions thread, not this one. Again, just start with the same post you did before, except please the f/f line.

I didn't start the thread. My first post was #3 in the thread following the M/F and F/M posts that remain above. But you are correct that there are just enough members of the L&C community who cannot have a calm and rational discussion that acknowledges our differences without automatically inferring that it's a criticism. I have been involved in the online L&C community since the 1990s and have had some wonderful and enlightening discussions with members from other segments of our little world and also seen the unfair demise of forums that you mentioned. Because I'd rather have what the forum can bring to our community overall than a discussion, I chose to take the whole thing down rather than to guess what might get taken the wrong way.

My apologies to markkk78 for inadvertently derailing his potentially interesting thread.

[themasterkavar]

To get the thread back on-topic, most of us are probably into the L&C scene for several reasons.

First off, I'm attracted to strong women. Not muscle-bound ones, just the fit and athletic type. While not a prerequisite, most L&C is done by women that fit this description. When perusing the forums, I generally skip over pictures that appear to have super skinny, overweight, or bodybuilder lifters. This isn't a judgement on other people's tastes, just mine. To each their own. There's enough material here for everyone to enjoy their own personal preferences.

Secondly, it's something that is very commonplace. L&C is not bound by seclusion like other fetishes. A piggyback ride is a nondescript action that can happen at any time and place, especially considering that most women could give one to an average man. This allows for a wide variety of situations for L&C to occur but naturally and artificially. There are even sports that focus heavily on L&C (weightlifting, dance, cheerleading, and you could throw some yoga stuff in there as well).

Thirdly, it's pretty diverse. There are standard, run-of-the-mill L&C moments with virtually no sexual basis (ex. piggyback rides walking around town, chicken fights in the pool), straight-up L&C videos from producers (liftnandcarrying, liftingfems, etc), and then some more hardcore sexual-based L&C material (Taylor and Caty S' productions). Throw in discrepancies between the size of the lifters/liftees and gender of each, and there's something here for everyone. Personally, I tend to stay away from the hardcore stuff and prefer to see videos and pictures from random events in the world than dedicated productions. Again, to each their own.

Fourth, we have an excellent forum here. The mods do a great job keeping the peace, and the general forum members rarely cause disturbances. Even the non-VIP boards have TONS of material from hundreds of pages of pictures, hundreds of pages of video, personal experiences, and discussions on all manners of L&C. Also, a strong presence from video producers is nice to have on the board. Of course Taylor hosts this site, but there are producers from many other sites that frequent these forums (Davemeister, Rachel, Caty S, Alexis Rain, etc).

Add it all up, and L&C is an extremely convenient interest to have.

[ramonra]

Very good post, themasterkavar.
I agree with most that you said. I just wanted to add that L&C is not an interest you choose, or at least it's not in my case. I would prefer no to have it, but as I cannot help with that, I accept it and embrace it.
I like L&C and as a side effect (or maybe viceversa) unexpected feats of strength by good-looking women. I also like athletic-fit type of girls, but because I understand they are more capable of giving me a lift.

I like L&C and strong women since I can remember, also the idea of a woman being unexpectedly stronger than a man has always done something to me. I remember this since I was 5. Because of this I think this fetish has a strong genetic base, so it's very difficult to find a logical explanation about why we like this.
To end this little rant, I think as long as you don't get obsessed with it, it's a pretty funny and good fetish to have. But also it can be very difficult to fulfill, for example yesterday I jumped on a friend's back and she collapsed even though her legs look strong... (and I'm not very heavy)

[tallgirlfan]

I agree themasterkavar the diversity of L&C is amazing taking it to lengths that i didn't even imagine.

For me it actually started with me i guess at the earliest age reading super hero comics. I would notice some strong girl like She Hulk lift some guy with ease. Then later i would try out some lifts with Baby sitters

As things progressed i played video games and had the female characters dominate men in positions like this 2:38



Later, i really was interested in taller women. I had never seen a woman taller than a adult male in my entire life and watching Stacy Keibler tower over men was very sensual for me Stacy's tougher than she looks i heard she knocked out some "stronger" female wrestler at club.



Then i searched online(best decision ever made) for wrestling matches of Women fighting and defeating men they called it "Mixed Wrestling". In some of the matches i noticed women Bear hug men or Ots Men that's when i fell in love with L&C. I didn't know what it was called at first. After much searching i found the magical words LIFT AND CARRY.

When learned about Goddess Severa and saw her lift she was my ultimate fantasy, I never heard of a woman that tall my entire life. She was everything i had dreamed about in a woman



For me L&C had to do with history. I was fascinated with it from the days of my youth. Maybe the the idea of a taller stronger woman lifting me makes me feel safe. I think L&C comforts me and brings me back to a time when things were innocent and carefree

[chintu]

Yes! In a way it lets them know that their "man" is strong and and can protect them. Also, its comforting, cute, flirty... list goes on plus it's a good excuse to get close and have fun.

[fag123]

For me personlly i have no clue i just remember seeing LC at school and it then all stqrted from there pretty weird. No particular event in my life at least.8

[adfimus]

Hello everyone,
I am new in this forum .. I signed a long time ago but without being able to participate in the subjects

First, please excuse me for my "poor" English because I am just using a translator (French<>English)

About this subject and what does the L&C so great and attractive ... for me, in general, I love strong and muscular women who can dominate easily a man ..

and this is why I love L & C (when women lift men); For me it's a sign which shows strength of strong women. That's why I really love L & C ..

Thank for this good forum

[jimbojet]

I am interested in liftee in L&C. It gives me some sense of protection.

[philosmarkxyz]

Totally a swxual thing for me