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[wemadeit]

I find that recently, not a lot of new lift and carry clips by producers are coming out. Is it just me?

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by wemadeit

I find that recently, not a lot of new lift and carry clips by producers are coming out. Is it just me?

Producers generally don't just make clips; people order custom clips for big money and producers make mediocre garbage for them and then sell it on C4S.

Now people can use AI to generate clips at a much lower cost or even for free, clips that (if you can write a prompt) can have the exact girls you want in the exact situations you want with all the details you want, things that would be impossible for producers even if you paid 1000 times as much.

And then the AI doesn't turn around and sell it afterwards.

So what's more important: knowing that a real girl performed a lift or seeing all the details of your fantasy? Either way all you really get is pixels on a screen anyway.

The clips you will see now are the ones commissioned by people who prioritize knowing it's real over getting the details right. I prefer real lifts but I'm pretty deep into AI because it's cheap and I can nail the fine details with a look of very high production values. No producer could match what AI does for me no matter how much I paid them.

My taste is F/F cradles. If that interests you or if you want to see what I've made, I have an Instagram. It's private but I basically approve anyone so request to follow and I'll approve it.

This link takes you right to a clip I made for Halloween that is an example of how producers can't compete with AI in terms of production:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQesI...q5_fYMunSoJM0/

This one that I made for Christmas is simpler but still it would be nearly impossible for a producer without a GIANT budget. I mean....live reindeer? In a large studio? How?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSn_s..._CybpM9XyxaQ0/

And this one was made 100% for free and it started with a single photo of a real lift so yes, a real lift took place in the making of this clip. The real girls' faces have been obscured.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOiCl...lYHFTlcJcgxw0/

And I have bigger things in the works right now. The technology is improving and so is my ability to use it. Why would I pay hundreds to a producer to see girls with mediocre faces, unsatisfying body types, pale skin and no shortage of tattoos and piercings looking bored or confused while they display poor lifting technique in an ugly fetish video setting when I can make my own clips like those? I really don't care if anyone else likes them because I like them but I share them because some people like them. I do them more because I actually enjoy the process of creating them. It's just an extension of what my mind has been creating for decades but now my eyes get to look at it. It "scratches my itch" in a way that no producer could on my shoestring budget. It does that for far less than what producers charge for even a crappy video.

Sorry for rambling but I think that just makes the point that this is why you won't see many clips from producers anymore. AI isn't as good as reality but reality rarely lives up to fantasy and fantasy is where it all starts. AI can deliver fantasy in a way that reality rarely does.

[fredbloggs1969]

I think you have hit the nail on the head for me, Mr Wolfe. I remember so many videos showing the same woman carrying their friends in the same tired circle, in the same room. For variety, they occasionally went counterclockwise When that was all I could get, I bought them.

Now, as you say, I can pretty much create my own scenario with the looks, clothing and situation of my choosing. I can create minute-long videos for a matter of pounds.

I create solely for myself and appreciate that my preferences regarding L&C are not everyone's, but as I am paying for my "AI custom", it is my choice, and I get what I pay for. I do occasionally post on DeviantArt in case anyone else shares my particular take on L&C, but if no one likes it, then fine.

The recent multi-shot option in Kling Ai, and its pretty reliable audio, is allowing me to really get close to what I often dreamt of, all these years. A quick example is below.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/0xbd9...548_0.mp4/file

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by fredbloggs1969

https://www.mediafire.com/file/0xbd9...548_0.mp4/file

Excellent work!

If that's an example of what you like, your taste is pretty close to mine. If producers could make stuff that looks like that I wouldn't have turned to AI. It doesn't tick all my boxes exactly but it's pretty close. I'll say it's "within my realm." In some ways, because it isn't exactly how I'd make it, it feels more real to me.

I've been trying to do more plotline/scenario videos. One of the things I like is observing the girls to build my craving for the lift before the lift actually happens. It's more like those lifts that occur in a movie, where you have a chance to get to know the girls first, then all of a sudden there's a lift. It makes the lift make sense (sorta at least ) and feel like there's a reality in which the lift happened. Fetish producers rarely could pull that off and when they did it always seemed too much like play-acting.

I also like when YouTubers/Tiktokers make "cute" videos with lifts so sometimes that's the kind of video I'm going for. I know you follow "Monica" so you probably know what I'm talking about. That's a style I've never seen a custom producer do, probably because they're too short to be worth getting everything together for.

It's things that feel more real than what the custom producers can make even though it's actually less real. That speaks volumes about how bad those customs are. It's why AI is killing them.

Fred- You should put some stuff on your Instagram!

[greatlifting]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

Producers generally don't just make clips; people order custom clips for big money and producers make mediocre garbage for them and then sell it on C4S.

Now people can use AI to generate clips at a much lower cost or even for free, clips that (if you can write a prompt) can have the exact girls you want in the exact situations you want with all the details you want, things that would be impossible for producers even if you paid 1000 times as much.

And then the AI doesn't turn around and sell it afterwards.

So what's more important: knowing that a real girl performed a lift or seeing all the details of your fantasy? Either way all you really get is pixels on a screen anyway.

The clips you will see now are the ones commissioned by people who prioritize knowing it's real over getting the details right. I prefer real lifts but I'm pretty deep into AI because it's cheap and I can nail the fine details with a look of very high production values. No producer could match what AI does for me no matter how much I paid them.

My taste is F/F cradles. If that interests you or if you want to see what I've made, I have an Instagram. It's private but I basically approve anyone so request to follow and I'll approve it.

This link takes you right to a clip I made for Halloween that is an example of how producers can't compete with AI in terms of production:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQesI...q5_fYMunSoJM0/

This one that I made for Christmas is simpler but still it would be nearly impossible for a producer without a GIANT budget. I mean....live reindeer? In a large studio? How?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSn_s..._CybpM9XyxaQ0/

And this one was made 100% for free and it started with a single photo of a real lift so yes, a real lift took place in the making of this clip. The real girls' faces have been obscured.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOiCl...lYHFTlcJcgxw0/

And I have bigger things in the works right now. The technology is improving and so is my ability to use it. Why would I pay hundreds to a producer to see girls with mediocre faces, unsatisfying body types, pale skin and no shortage of tattoos and piercings looking bored or confused while they display poor lifting technique in an ugly fetish video setting when I can make my own clips like those? I really don't care if anyone else likes them because I like them but I share them because some people like them. I do them more because I actually enjoy the process of creating them. It's just an extension of what my mind has been creating for decades but now my eyes get to look at it. It "scratches my itch" in a way that no producer could on my shoestring budget. It does that for far less than what producers charge for even a crappy video.

Sorry for rambling but I think that just makes the point that this is why you won't see many clips from producers anymore. AI isn't as good as reality but reality rarely lives up to fantasy and fantasy is where it all starts. AI can deliver fantasy in a way that reality rarely does.

I agree with what you wrote. The world is heading more and more into a fake identity. fake news, fake pics, fake videos. It's only natural that producers follow this trend. We probably have to get more and more used to the fact that real lift and carry videos are becoming a rarity.

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by greatlifting

I agree with what you wrote. The world is heading more and more into a fake identity. fake news, fake pics, fake videos. It's only natural that producers follow this trend. We probably have to get more and more used to the fact that real lift and carry videos are becoming a rarity.

I agree with what you wrote, too. It's not producers though. It's people like us who are using AI because it gives better results than producers for a fraction of the cost.

What producers make isn't exactly real either. It's just pretending for profit. What's truly real is when some girl gets the urge to pick up and carry her friend. That's always been a rarity and always will be. The question, like I said in my first reply, is what's more important: knowing that a real woman lifted a real person or seeing a complete visual representation of your fantasy?

Either way all you get is a video. I think AI is the better route for people with a clear vision of their fantasy. Maybe it's only the people with that clear vision who were ordering the customs. If that's the case, AI will cause the custom market to dry up.

[fredbloggs1969]

I have been looking into a slightly longer scenario-type AI video. As The Wolfe suggests, a bit of a story makes for a better experience.

I have uploaded a "proof of concept" 2 minute video to see how easy it would be to make such a thing.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/z7ej6.../0417.mp4/file

I appreciate that it will not be everyone's "cup of tea". It does lean very heavily into my tights/pantyhose on women fetish as well. (But hey, it is my story, so I do what I want) The story moves a bit "quick", skips important plot points and is never going to win an award, but it shows a "direction" and, as I say, proves that something more complex can be attempted.

As I appreciate I have particular tastes, I thought it might be useful to share my "process" so those interested in a similar scenario can try their own with their particular ingredients.

1) I create the characters. I use Flow for all this work. I created both the women and the kitchen where the main action takes place. Flow is free for image creation. Example below.
https://www.mediafire.com/view/aqt71...61244.png/file

2) I "storyboard" the scenario. (This video was based on the first story I put on the old Yahoo groups 25 years ago, using Poser to create the characters). I use flow to create static images. Like the link below. You can add the characters and the background as "ingredients" to get the image.

https://www.mediafire.com/view/68888...%2529.png/file

The good thing about flow is that you can ask it to change the picture. This is very useful when trying to animate a lift, as you can get a carried image and one where the liftee is not lifted. Work backwards. Get the carry first, then ask Flow to show the liftee being put down.

3) I then use Kling AI to create the video. This is where it starts to cost you. Using Kling Video 3.0 is great, as it gives multiple angles, and despite the speech being a little robotic at times, it is fair. For the lifts, I use the before and after I have created in Flow. Sometimes I will extract the end frame from one video to start the next. I let Kling decide the angles and cameras in many cases, with only basic direction from me. I find that the more complex instructions give "variable" results. You may not get the right result, and a costly reshoot is sometimes required. The video cost me around $30 to "shoot"

4) I then put the completed shots together in the free version of Capcut. Cost prohibited me from doing complex scenes showing the 2 women moving from one lift to another, so I cheated and used transitions in Capcut. It is only a trial scenario for me, and I do not charge anyone for downloading, etc. (This will not be on my DeviantArt page). Maybe I will add more detail later.