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[allffcradles]

Originally Posted by Chaza

She even started to find it creepy!

Hello fellow countryman. It's unfair to think of your desires as creepy, if it had been you liking to be the lifter fair enough such a thing can be seen as harassment if you do it without consent but you can't force someone to lift you against their will, if anything I'd thought that would make you less creepy than a typical bloke. Lift and carry in its pure form is harmless but there are darker branches that make up its roots and branches such as kidnapping, necrophilia, incapacitation, domination etc.

One girl I was close with thought of the fetish as rpmantic and innocent. Unfortunately I'm on very bad terms with her and as I said elsewhere if I ever lift her again I'd deliberately drop her and painfully!

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by allffcradles

Hello fellow countryman. It's unfair to think of your desires as creepy, if it had been you liking to be the lifter fair enough such a thing can be seen as harassment if you do it without consent but you can't force someone to lift you against their will, if anything I'd thought that would make you less creepy than a typical bloke. Lift and carry in its pure form is harmless but there are darker branches that make up its roots and branches such as kidnapping, necrophilia, incapacitation, domination etc.

One girl I was close with thought of the fetish as rpmantic and innocent. Unfortunately I'm on very bad terms with her and as I said elsewhere if I ever lift her again I'd deliberately drop her and painfully!

What seems to make women think L&C is creepy (outside of gender role stereotype issues) is that we sexualize a non-sexual act. The vast majority of material posted here is innocent photos of people behaving in a way they don't intend to be sexual. Then we go and find those photos they've posted to share with their friends and appropriate them for our own purposes here without their knowledge. We're driven to do this by an insatiable desire to see more and more images of L&C. For such an innocent, harmless act to rule us with such a strong craving could be viewed as creepy, couldn't it? When we come clean and ask our women to perform L&C for us, they feel like their security is violated because a simple, innocent act that they may have participated in now and then is now revealed to be a sexual act in your eyes. If you could sexualize that, what other innocent act might you sexualize? And if you, the person she's close to can do that, then how about that guy at work who she catches looking at her or some random guy at the supermarket? There are a lot of strange fetishes out there, much stranger than L&C, because guys can sexualize anything. Most women already know this but they suppress it until the guy they let into their life - the one they felt safe with - brought the creepy side of male sexuality in with him.

Of course there are women who are more open-minded, understanding and accepting than that but they're certainly the minority.

[Chaza]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

What seems to make women think L&C is creepy (outside of gender role stereotype issues) is that we sexualize a non-sexual act. The vast majority of material posted here is innocent photos of people behaving in a way they don't intend to be sexual. Then we go and find those photos they've posted to share with their friends and appropriate them for our own purposes here without their knowledge. We're driven to do this by an insatiable desire to see more and more images of L&C. For such an innocent, harmless act to rule us with such a strong craving could be viewed as creepy, couldn't it? When we come clean and ask our women to perform L&C for us, they feel like their security is violated because a simple, innocent act that they may have participated in now and then is now revealed to be a sexual act in your eyes. If you could sexualize that, what other innocent act might you sexualize? And if you, the person she's close to can do that, then how about that guy at work who she catches looking at her or some random guy at the supermarket? There are a lot of strange fetishes out there, much stranger than L&C, because guys can sexualize anything. Most women already know this but they suppress it until the guy they let into their life - the one they felt safe with - brought the creepy side of male sexuality in with him.

Of course there are women who are more open-minded, understanding and accepting than that but they're certainly the minority.

Well explained and thought out. I never looked at our community in that sort of way before! Wow I think I have scared myself XD; I joke of course!

Although it does make you think.

[allffcradles]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

What seems to make women think L&C is creepy (outside of gender role stereotype issues) is that we sexualize a non-sexual act. The vast majority of material posted here is innocent photos of people behaving in a way they don't intend to be sexual. Then we go and find those photos they've posted to share with their friends and appropriate them for our own purposes here without their knowledge. We're driven to do this by an insatiable desire to see more and more images of L&C. For such an innocent, harmless act to rule us with such a strong craving could be viewed as creepy, couldn't it? When we come clean and ask our women to perform L&C for us, they feel like their security is violated because a simple, innocent act that they may have participated in now and then is now revealed to be a sexual act in your eyes. If you could sexualize that, what other innocent act might you sexualize? And if you, the person she's close to can do that, then how about that guy at work who she catches looking at her or some random guy at the supermarket? There are a lot of strange fetishes out there, much stranger than L&C, because guys can sexualize anything. Most women already know this but they suppress it until the guy they let into their life - the one they felt safe with - brought the creepy side of male sexuality in with him.

Of course there are women who are more open-minded, understanding and accepting than that but they're certainly the minority.

Well so far the few women I have told have been more open minded, albeit some were confused that such a thing can be a fetish. Some even think it's sweet, some brush it off if they're more knowledgeable of fantasies and what not (I myself don't get easily shocked as I've been online long enough to come across much weirder things, certainly less innocent) Well some yes aren't so keen to be lifted as you say once they know there's a hidden motive behind it but certainly creepy a very wrong way to view the thing (Unless it implies one using force, harrassment or threats to get their desires, as with the case of that mot23

Overall I will conclude fetishes are very misunderstood, heck I don't really understand why I have them myself (Part of the fun though) I can accept someone thinking lift and carry is strange but as for creepy I can never support that in its pure form, as in not tied with kidnap, chloroform, domination and the other darker extensions to it

[TheWolfe]

I've never run into a girl who found it creepy (occasionally annoyed, yes but not creepy) that I wanted to lift her. It's about wanting the girl to do the lifting. I can't give you an actual experience asking a girl to lift me but Chaza did. I've found that if a girl does F/F in a flirty/teasing way on her own idea right in front of you without any clue about your interest, then she catches your reaction, odds are good that she'll repeat it to get the reaction again because she did it naturally and she likes to tease for the reaction. If you ask a girl to do F/F in the context of "I think it's hot", that's when it becomes creepy even if the girl likes to tease because you're asking for it. There are also some whose brains will identify your request as a sex act because of the context and be creeped that you're requesting a sex act that involves another girl.

You really have to work hard to take your way of thinking out of your own fetish fantasy mode and get inside the thought patterns of your girl's head. Lifting (with a female lifter) is often far outside of their realm.

[themasterkavar]

All of my experiences have been purely social. I have a preference towards fit women (not overly muscular, just fit would be the best description I suppose), and view getting rides to be a fun, not sexual act. I always give the girls rides as well.

I've only ever talked to one girl about it. We rarely see each other since we live in different states. Whenever we happen to visit our parents during holidays, we often make time to go to the beach. We wrestle jokingly/semi-jokingly. It usually ends up with me throwing her over my shoulder and throwing her into the water. We'd generally spend an hour or two in the water, talking, and occasionally having a quick wrestling bout, which I always win. She enjoys giving me piggyback rides in the water while we talk, and she likes it when I do the same to her. She has also sat on my shoulders at least 15 times, and she has given me a few shoulder rides. One lasted almost two minutes, and another time had some adult themes to it (oddly enough, we've never done anything else like that before or after).

We joke around about lifting each other occasionally when we go back to our respective states. She knows I enjoy it more than her, especially the shoulder rides. We're both competitive and in great shape, so we enjoy the challenge more than anything else. We've done this over ten beach trips, so it's become an established tradition, if you will.

[spooter]

I told my wife about my fetish of being lifted years ago. She was/is very accepting of it and just about lifts me anytime I ask her to. I even showed her this website and on some occasions she will look through the pics and videos with me. I guess I got lucky to find such an understanding woman.

[hugo42]

My situation is interesting. I met a good friend of mine on another blogging site years ago. We used to read each other's blogs before finally talking on yahoo, etc. In one of her blogs, she wrote how her ex-husband used to carry her over his shoulder to the bedroom but sadly stopped doing that because she weighed too much. When I went to visit her, I kept thinking of how I would ask her.

She was standing in the kitchen, and I just asked out outright. She walked over to me and let me pick her up over my shoulder. Ever since then, she's allowed me to carry her over my shoulder and doesn't mind if I take pictures and video. She actually ran across L&C photos on my phone and wasn't creeped out about it.

We went to an amusement park on her birthday, and as we parted ways, I gave her some birthday money. We were in the train station parking lot and surprised me by saying, "I know you want to pick me up! You can go ahead and pick me up if you want." So, I put my stuff down and carried her again.

We see each other about once every two months or so, and I make sure to get her permission to carry her. In fact, the last time I saw her, I was hanging out with her and her boyfriend. He cradled her while I took pictures, and then she allowed me to carry her over my shoulder while he took pictures.

She thinks it's pretty harmless and never has any problem with me carrying her. I am very lucky I have someone who doesn't mind being carried