What goes into making a video?

[rflcblue]

Originally Posted by intolnc

Very interesting and detailed post, rflcblue.
Sadly I already own all the online video-pools on your site, so as long as there's no new content, I can't pay! Well, I'd even go for the other un-edited material that you haven't uploaded yet, if there's any way.

I know there were a couple of good customers and I am sorry for them. Thank you for your interest, intolnc.

[Coolbeans]

Originally Posted by rflcblue

I know there were a couple of good customers and I am sorry for them. Thank you for your interest, intolnc.

Obviously it is understood why it would be hard for you to keep your site going. Quite a shame as you were really coming along with your videos. Here's hoping you can find a way to update your site again with new material at some point.

And on that note, it would appear that the lift/carry site from Argentina (http://www.esforzadas.com.ar/) is now dead in the water (the link doesn't even work anymore). Also a shame as there were some VERY attractive women performing lifts on that site. Was anyone lucky enough to be a member while it was available?

[cmcwmod]

Well, just like newspapers, Hollywood Studios and record labels, L&C is unable to find a viable business model on the web...

At least thanks for the effort, rflcblue. There were some good videos on your site.

[rflcblue]

Originally Posted by cmcwmod

Well, just like newspapers, Hollywood Studios and record labels, L&C is unable to find a viable business model on the web...

...OK, it is not viable, ...you have to work a lot for free; ...then you still have to accept, that you have no control over what happens with your material on the web.

For me personally it would be an essential argument, when the IT-technic had a solution against this increasing problem. Though it might be very unpopular: when customers would accept (...and I know, that this is a critical point...), that they could only see the videos for a limited time (3, 6, 12 months), but could not download them, I could rather accept, that it might be a hobby for me to offer videos. Maybe there are other upcoming new technics, that you can download videos but not distribute it over the web. Actually I belief, that there will be new solutions in future.

[Leobor]

I have to say something. I ordered 2 clips from chloecreations, and I was very satisfied. BUT, I payed them 55 USD each (110 together) and then I saw (for my big surprice) that those site is selling those clips for 3 USD each.

Is that all right for a custumer? I think not, as it looks like I made myself an idiot. The only thing I should do is wait for a custum clip for someone to order and then pay it 3 dollars I guess.

[tragmich]

Originally Posted by Leobor

I have to say something. I ordered 2 clips from chloecreations, and I was very satisfied. BUT, I payed them 55 USD each (110 together) and then I saw (for my big surprice) that those site is selling those clips for 3 USD each.

Is that all right for a custumer? I think not, as it looks like I made myself an idiot. The only thing I should do is wait for a custum clip for someone to order and then pay it 3 dollars I guess.

Leobor
It has always been like this. Go back 20 years in time and a 40 minutes custom vhs tape with 2 girls would cost USD 350. 15 years ago a 2 girl tape would cost USD 450. Any additional girl would raise the price with USD 150. Two years after the making of each custom tape, the tape could be selled by the producer to the public for about 50-60 dollars. This was the standard contract and you had to accept it, if you wanted a lift and carry tape.

Look at it this way. If you hadn?t ordered the clips, they would never have been made.

[tragmich]

Rflcblue
Thank you very much for your long description. Is there any chance of you ever making any custom tapes in the future? You had some very pretty girls working for you!

[dp]

Originally Posted by rflcblue

...OK, it is not viable, ...you have to work a lot for free; ...then you still have to accept, that you have no control over what happens with your material on the web.

For me personally it would be an essential argument, when the IT-technic had a solution against this increasing problem. Though it might be very unpopular: when customers would accept (...and I know, that this is a critical point...), that they could only see the videos for a limited time (3, 6, 12 months), but could not download them, I could rather accept, that it might be a hobby for me to offer videos. Maybe there are other upcoming new technics, that you can download videos but not distribute it over the web. Actually I belief, that there will be new solutions in future.

Sorry to disappoint you, but the technology you want will never exist. Anyone could point a camera to the screen and record the video in sufficient quality for this kind of fetish material.

Besides, on open platforms such as PCs and Macs, a determined person can even bypass any kind of protection to enable perfect copies. The reason is that no matter what you do, your customers must be able to receive and play back the content on their own computer. This means that any kind of protection can be bypassed by reverse engineering the software used for viewing your video. This is one of the reasons why game developers prefer consoles such as PS3 and Xbox 360 to the PC. (The consoles are locked down in hardware so that only software approved by Sony and Microsoft can run on them.)

Technology can never prevent your material from being distributed illegally, but there are digital watermarking technologies that can make it easier to track down those responsible for distributing your stuff illegally.

[dendrin]

I agree with dp. Basically, you can fight technology only to a point. As I said before, pretty sure illegal distribution was not the problem. I bet you would be successful on your next try with a little better advertising, cost cutting, and better luck on your market timing (avoiding recessions )

[rflcblue]

Originally Posted by dendrin

I agree with dp. Basically, you can fight technology only to a point. As I said before, pretty sure illegal distribution was not the problem. I bet you would be successful on your next try with a little better advertising, cost cutting, and better luck on your market timing (avoiding recessions )

I am able to relate to your points and thanks for these encouraging words. I feel like I have arrived at this forum. In Germany it?s 2:00 o?clock in the night and I should better sleep, but one thing I still can say, I belief, I unfortunately don?t like advertising... .