What age does lift and carry start on average

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by featherman

Zoomer men like dating older women. Here’s a hypothetical: His mom’s best friend for instance- she’s fawned over him since he was little. He’s had a crush on her, he fantasizes about ways to get close. If she’s single, during the guys adulthood, he might try to date her. I personally find that fun and amusing.

I don't know that that's unique to zoomers but that age difference and the extra details you added in seem to take it to an extreme. There were loads of movies in the '80s with older woman scenarios. It's been the male fantasy for many decades but maybe not exactly how you described it.

When I was about 15 I had a buddy my age who made money mowing lawns and babysitting for people in his neighborhood. There was one mom I met who was a true MILF. She was probably 33-34 years old with a great body (probably 5'5"/120) and a pretty face with blue eyes and dark hair with the slightest touch of premature grey creeping in. Because I couldn't drive yet and because he had to be at her house on time, I went with him to her house and waited there for my ride, which is how I got to see her. She was all done up in a nice dress and heels with her hair and makeup done, ready to go out with her husband. She looked like a movie star. No, I didn't get to do anything with her and neither did my friend but we both wanted to. She made such an impression on me that I still remember her very clearly 45 years later. But that was just me being a guy and her being a very attractive chick. The age only factored in as a way to know that I was too young to even attempt it. If she approached me with naughty ideas I would have been very receptive; not because of her age or position as an adult but because she was hot and desirable. If anything her air of responsible adult maturity was a turn-off because it made it obvious that she would never in a million years put herself into that type of situation.

So here's a connection I never thought of until just now...

I love F/F L&C. Responsible, mature adult women generally don't lift and carry each other. That type of physically playful activity is in the realm of tweens, teens and partying sorority girls, then they settle down and outgrow it. Seeing women older than college age engaging in that sort of activity suggests that they still have a bit of that youthful, playful immaturity still in them and that makes them more attractive to me. A woman who can be responsible and mature when she needs to be but still be playful and girly when it's time to relax and have fun is perfection.

Seeing adult women engaging in F/F L&C seems like a good indicator of the presence of that youthful playfulness in their personality. They seem fun and like they don't embarrass easily if they're doing that in public or publicly posting images/videos of it. They're not stodgy and boring like the woman my friend babysat for. I don't think she played any direct role in encouraging me to like L&C but in hindsight she definitely helped shape my view of what I find attractive in a woman's personality because it's what seemed missing from hers.

[featherman]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

I don't know that that's unique to zoomers but that age difference and the extra details you added in seem to take it to an extreme. There were loads of movies in the '80s with older woman scenarios. It's been the male fantasy for many decades but maybe not exactly how you described it.

When I was about 15 I had a buddy my age who made money mowing lawns and babysitting for people in his neighborhood. There was one mom I met who was a true MILF. She was probably 33-34 years old with a great body (probably 5'5"/120) and a pretty face with blue eyes and dark hair with the slightest touch of premature grey creeping in. Because I couldn't drive yet and because he had to be at her house on time, I went with him to her house and waited there for my ride, which is how I got to see her. She was all done up in a nice dress and heels with her hair and makeup done, ready to go out with her husband. She looked like a movie star. No, I didn't get to do anything with her and neither did my friend but we both wanted to. She made such an impression on me that I still remember her very clearly 45 years later. But that was just me being a guy and her being a very attractive chick. The age only factored in as a way to know that I was too young to even attempt it. If she approached me with naughty ideas I would have been very receptive; not because of her age or position as an adult but because she was hot and desirable. If anything her air of responsible adult maturity was a turn-off because it made it obvious that she would never in a million years put herself into that type of situation.

So here's a connection I never thought of until just now...

I love F/F L&C. Responsible, mature adult women generally don't lift and carry each other. That type of physically playful activity is in the realm of tweens, teens and partying sorority girls, then they settle down and outgrow it. Seeing women older than college age engaging in that sort of activity suggests that they still have a bit of that youthful, playful immaturity still in them and that makes them more attractive to me. A woman who can be responsible and mature when she needs to be but still be playful and girly when it's time to relax and have fun is perfection.

Seeing adult women engaging in F/F L&C seems like a good indicator of the presence of that youthful playfulness in their personality. They seem fun and like they don't embarrass easily if they're doing that in public or publicly posting images/videos of it. They're not stodgy and boring like the woman my friend babysat for. I don't think she played any direct role in encouraging me to like L&C but in hindsight she definitely helped shape my view of what I find attractive in a woman's personality because it's what seemed missing from hers.

Yes, it’s really cute seeing girl next door types. The thought of affection is just so sexy. It shows she cares, and for me, caring, loving, affectionate, and beautiful combine to create a VERY sexy woman. Mom/older sis types are the most attractive type of personality to date.

[wrestl2424]

Hello, this is my first post. Earliest experience I can remember I was around 6. My family lived in an apartment complex and I was at a neighboring apartment at a friend of my younger sisters. I don't recall why it happened exactly but the girl's mom didn't want her to leave to come hang out at our apartment. She kept saying no but did it in a playful way by singing and dancing that she wasn't allowed to go. From what I remember she was dark haired, pretty and fit. For some reason she decided to pick me up and spin me around a few times in an airplane spin. I guess that left a mark on me.

Few years later, we moved into a house closeby. My older sister had a friend over and she liked to play wrestle which really left an impression for later in life. I was probably around 10-11. My older sister is 4 years older so her friend was probably the same at 14 or 15. I had a friend over at the same time and she took turns lifting us on her shoulders and spinning us around. She also pinned us at will since she was obviously bigger and stronger than us. At the same time she was just a normal girl for that age, maybe 5'5" 120 lbs while we were probably 70 lbs.

These experiences set me up with a major wrestling fetish in general but lift and carry certainly plays a major role in that as well.