Is lifting always domination? - Page 2

Hidddman · March 19th, 2019, 17:43

For the most part, lifting someone is commonly seen as a very explicit demonstration of strength and dominance because it locks the liftee into a very vulnerable and defenceless position, which is very common in professional wrestling. When lifting is shown to be a demonstration of submission, it's usually because it is an order for the lifter to dedicate most of their energy into the liftee, as if the liftee is something that is meant to be protected and preserved under the lifter's oath.

Certain lifting positions also determine the power dynamic between the two parties due to the common perception in media. Pony-rides and piggybacks are often the most sub-like lifting positions, with cradles and OTSes being more dependent on circumstances, and overheads and under-arm carries being seen as the most explicitly dominant.

The same lifting position (the over-the-shoulder carry) can be used as either as mentioned before, it mostly depends on the context and facial expressions.

Here's one where the lifter is seen as more submissive, or at the very least, beleaguered. (From the Red Sonja comics)

And here's one where the lifter is explicitly seen as the dominant one. (From one of the cards in Fire Emblem trading card game.)

jonsky · April 8th, 2019, 13:59

I think both aspects is possible - when the lifter is dominant and the liftee is dominant.
But in l&c goes for soft and harmless domination in most cases.
Maybe is important here that liftee must have trust in lifters abilities if want to enjoy beeing lifted.

LCF3 · May 2nd, 2019, 16:40

While domination may be a large part of it for some people that definitely doesn't apply to me.
For me there is no bigger turn of than when someone tries to dominate me.

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KAKAKA · May 25th, 2019, 04:28

I think we need sometimes to lose control.
deliver ourselves to the beautiful care gender women of course.
feel safe and protected.

yoo123 · April 3rd, 2020, 22:22

No....Not always

baiduas · June 13th, 2020, 09:15

Just personally, I really love it when it is dominating just feeling overpowered and hopeless.

Darla36 · January 17th, 2022, 14:58

I like both types of lift and carry, but domination is more satisfying.

Islandlife · May 15th, 2023, 00:42

Lifting could often mean serving the other person while taking on a lot of pain. There is no better form of submission than lifting.

CAleft12 · May 15th, 2023, 16:24

I don’t think lifting is necessarily dominant but I do feel like I am under a woman’s control when she’s lifting me. A playful piggyback ride doesn’t feel dominant at all but being lifted against my will in a wrestling match and being unable to get down can feel very dominant.

TheWolfe · May 16th, 2023, 03:13

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Originally Posted by CAleft12

I don’t think lifting is necessarily dominant but I do feel like I am under a woman’s control when she’s lifting me. A playful piggyback ride doesn’t feel dominant at all but being lifted against my will in a wrestling match and being unable to get down can feel very dominant.

How about the flip side? Can someone be lifted without submitting to the person lifting them? If you're giving up control, aren't you submitting to them?

April 8th, 2019, 13:59	#2
jonsky VIPOS Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 773 : 2 For This Post 2,682 Total	domination I think both aspects is possible - when the lifter is dominant and the liftee is dominant. But in l&c goes for soft and harmless domination in most cases. Maybe is important here that liftee must have trust in lifters abilities if want to enjoy beeing lifted.

May 25th, 2019, 04:28	#4
KAKAKA Junior Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 6 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	safe I think we need sometimes to lose control. deliver ourselves to the beautiful care gender women of course. feel safe and protected.

April 3rd, 2020, 22:22	#5
yoo123 STANDARD Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 7 : 0 For This Post 6 Total	Dom No....Not always

May 15th, 2023, 00:42	#8
Islandlife STANDARD Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 8 : 1 For This Post 1 Total	submission Lifting could often mean serving the other person while taking on a lot of pain. There is no better form of submission than lifting.

March 19th, 2019, 17:43	#1
Hidddman VIP Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 233 : 1 For This Post 641 Total	For the most part, lifting someone is commonly seen as a very explicit demonstration of strength and dominance because it locks the liftee into a very vulnerable and defenceless position, which is very common in professional wrestling. When lifting is shown to be a demonstration of submission, it's usually because it is an order for the lifter to dedicate most of their energy into the liftee, as if the liftee is something that is meant to be protected and preserved under the lifter's oath. Certain lifting positions also determine the power dynamic between the two parties due to the common perception in media. Pony-rides and piggybacks are often the most sub-like lifting positions, with cradles and OTSes being more dependent on circumstances, and overheads and under-arm carries being seen as the most explicitly dominant. The same lifting position (the over-the-shoulder carry) can be used as either as mentioned before, it mostly depends on the context and facial expressions. Here's one where the lifter is seen as more submissive, or at the very least, beleaguered. (From the Red Sonja comics) And here's one where the lifter is explicitly seen as the dominant one. (From one of the cards in Fire Emblem trading card game.)

May 2nd, 2019, 16:40	#3
LCF3 STANDARD Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 4 : 1 For This Post 1 Total	While domination may be a large part of it for some people that definitely doesn't apply to me. For me there is no bigger turn of than when someone tries to dominate me. --->>> You could play this practice when you quarrel with your boss vk

June 13th, 2020, 09:15	#6
baiduas Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 2 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Just personally, I really love it when it is dominating just feeling overpowered and hopeless.

January 17th, 2022, 14:58	#7
Darla36 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 4 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I like both types of lift and carry, but domination is more satisfying.

May 15th, 2023, 16:24	#9
CAleft12 STANDARD Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 26 : 0 For This Post 25 Total	I don’t think lifting is necessarily dominant but I do feel like I am under a woman’s control when she’s lifting me. A playful piggyback ride doesn’t feel dominant at all but being lifted against my will in a wrestling match and being unable to get down can feel very dominant.