Megaupload stormed by the FBI

[Snowstormbanana]

Originally Posted by filmguy

They are not going after individuals who have uploaded, they're going after the owners for profiting off of piracy.

Yeah, you might wanna think so, but i don't think it's quite that simple.

First of all, i think it's totally ridicoulus that because megaupload had one or two servers hosted in the US means they can extradite them to the US, put them in an american court, blabla..

If they're going after the owners that profited off of piracy, oh what's this you can download right from cnet? http://download.cnet.com/windows/p2p...ntBody;sideBar

Oh no? Utorrent, bittorrent, vuze?? Now the big companies that uses CNET, are all against piracy, but then why have they let you download filesharing softward right off of there website for over a decade? If they're going after the people that made money off of piracy, i don't see why they go free?

Easy to download filesharing software..

CBS interactive does not encourage or condone the illegal duplication or distribution of illegal content

Wow, yea it's easy to say that CBS, but then why the heck is it still available through CNET!!

I'm sure you've heard of this story about the student in the UK, who didn't even upload or download any copyright infringed files, he simply just linked to a site with copyrighted material, which isn't even illegal in the UK!! He's getting extradited to USA, to be imprisoned! He just linked to copyright material, CNET have had "tutorials" of how to download copyrighted music and they let you download freaking utorrent and bittorrent right from their site, they're not getting imprisoned, are they? Noo.. But they've done it for over 10 years, the UK student just linked to a site with copyright infringed material!

[Leobor]

[Snowstormbanana]

Now.. What was the point of that post?

[FinQ]

It sounds to me like this would affect people who have uploaded/downloaded movies and/or songs through megaupload (MU).

It occurs to me that this forum:
a) Doesn't post links to entire films to be downloaded through MU
b) Posts clips from small independent film companies making l&c stuff (not exactly the people who are bringing about these lawsuits - Universal/Pixar etc.)
c) Doesn't have anything to do with mp3s

Therefore, was this just here for information for users who may also use MU to download additional (non-forum related) content?

I can't really see that anyone here who has downloaded the occasional clip through MU which was posted here needs to be overly concerned.

Thoughts?

Fin

[Snowstormbanana]

Originally Posted by FinQ

It sounds to me like this would affect people who have uploaded/downloaded movies and/or songs through megaupload (MU).

It occurs to me that this forum:
a) Doesn't post links to entire films to be downloaded through MU
b) Posts clips from small independent film companies making l&c stuff (not exactly the people who are bringing about these lawsuits - Universal/Pixar etc.)
c) Doesn't have anything to do with mp3s

Therefore, was this just here for information for users who may also use MU to download additional (non-forum related) content?

I can't really see that anyone here who has downloaded the occasional clip through MU which was posted here needs to be overly concerned.

Thoughts?

Fin

Well i didn't mean clips regarding L&C, i meant in general, most people on the internet who once or twice downloaded something that has a copyright on it most likely did it from one of these sites like, Megaupload, rapidshare, speedyshare? etc, and most people did on some occasion download for example a copyrighted song or a movie.

If you just downloaded stuff that was uploaded on here, you don't have to worry, this thread is mostly to warn people, we need to fight back!

[lcand223]

Originally Posted by Bazzese

Well i didn't mean clips regarding L&C, i meant in general, most people on the internet who once or twice downloaded something that has a copyright on it most likely did it from one of these sites like, Megaupload, rapidshare, speedyshare? etc, and most people did on some occasion download for example a copyrighted song or a movie.

I've downloaded loads of copyrighted files, and I've done it so many times I can't even remember, haha. Pitty they closed down Megavideo because I used it a lot, particularly to watch movies online, but I don't live in the US and I doubt very much the FBI will come after any of us.

If you just downloaded stuff that was uploaded on here, you don't have to worry, this thread is mostly to warn people, we need to fight back!

As for SOPA/PIPA, it's not gonna pass. Unlike the NDAA, which was about 100x worse and practically makes the US a dictatorship, in case of SOPA there is money on the other side and quite a lot of it. Obama has received more campaign funds (aka legal bribes) from internet companies as google, ect. than from hollywood and record companies, so he's flipped sides and we've seen some heavy lobbying make many prominent Republicans flip on this as well and Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul all denounced SOPA in the most recent South Carolina debate. There's too much money in the internet, which makes a powerful force in a system that is controlled 100% by what big money says, so I wouldn't worry that much about SOPA if I were you.

[Snowstormbanana]

Originally Posted by lcand223

I've downloaded loads of copyrighted files, and I've done it so many times I can't even remember, haha. Pitty they closed down Megavideo because I used it a lot, particularly to watch movies online, but I don't live in the US and I doubt very much the FBI will come after any of us.



As for SOPA/PIPA, it's not gonna pass. Unlike the NDAA, which was about 100x worse and practically makes the US a dictatorship, in case of SOPA there is money on the other side and quite a lot of it. Obama has received more campaign funds (aka legal bribes) from internet companies as google, ect. than from hollywood and record companies, so he's flipped sides and we've seen some heavy lobbying make many prominent Republicans flip on this as well and Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul all denounced SOPA in the most recent South Carolina debate. There's too much money in the internet, which makes a powerful force in a system that is controlled 100% by what big money says, so I wouldn't worry that much about SOPA if I were you.

No,no.. SOPA, i don't worry about.

I don't think i ever used megaupload to download any copyrighted files, and yes i doub't they'll be coming after literally 25% of the internet for using megaupload, but when the US extradites a UK student for just linking to copyrighted material to lock him up in a nice and comfy cell it makes me wanna throw up, that's something which isn't illegal in the UK! Meanwhile all these rich investers and owners of CNET who let you download utorrent, bittorrent and all these other filesharing software from their own website, they go free!

This UK student made a couple of thousand dollars for what he did, The owners of CNET have made hundreds of millions of dollars during this decade while they showed you how to download copyright infringed material, from the comfort of their own website.

[Leobor]

Originally Posted by Bazzese

Now.. What was the point of that post?

The point is that no one can acuse you on anything for a tone of reasons.

First - how could someone know did the "downloader" really knew what was downloaded in that moment?

Second - I am pretty sure that all the courts and DAs of this world couldnt process all the cases.

Third - if someone only tries something like that it will make huge problems, as I am pretty sure that most of FBI agents which worked on the case actually used some of those material for themselves etc...

Conclussion is - dont make panic without a cause.

[Snowstormbanana]

Originally Posted by Leobor

The point is that no one can acuse you on anything for a tone of reasons.

First - how could someone know did the "downloader" really knew what was downloaded in that moment?

Second - I am pretty sure that all the courts and DAs of this world couldnt process all the cases.

Third - if someone only tries something like that it will make huge problems, as I am pretty sure that most of FBI agents which worked on the case actually used some of those material for themselves etc...

Conclussion is - dont make panic without a cause.

I don't see why i would have any reason to panic considering i never downloaded anything from megaupload except for a couple of photos my friend sent me, of course the courts won't be able to process all of this, but it's not really up to them is it?

I don't really have time to write 50 pages of text right now...

Anyways, here's something that made me freaking disgusted...


At 9:30am EST federal agents raided a home in Malvern, PA. The suspect is accused of making Mickey Mouse (TM) shaped pancakes for his children. If convicted he faces 10 years in prison and up to $150,000 for each pancake consumed. Pancake mix provider Bisquick has made no statement at this time, but may be liable for damages in excess of $5 million dollars.

[Leobor]

Originally Posted by Bazzese

At 9:30am EST federal agents raided a home in Malvern, PA. The suspect is accused of making Mickey Mouse (TM) shaped pancakes for his children. If convicted he faces 10 years in prison and up to $150,000 for each pancake consumed. Pancake mix provider Bisquick has made no statement at this time, but may be liable for damages in excess of $5 million dollars.

Link of reference?