Is lifting always domination?

[suannai]

I think there are many scenarios of lift and carry, for example in primary school girls develop early and will help pick up their male classmates to watch the game。

[RobinTheRider]

I think that it could be domination, submission or neither. It really depends on how you wanna do it. Personally I prefer a mix with my lift and carry. My favorite lift is a piggyback ride and I also have a wrestling/choking fetish. So in my case it's generally more about mounting someone and taking control.

In a weird way I feel like this example has aspects of submission and domination in a struggle. whenever I've mounted someone in the past I feel control in the way that they might not be able to shake me off, but they still have full control of our position. I know that there is a decent crossover between wrestling and LandC, but I kinda feel like this particular experience might be somewhat niche, but if it isn't I'd love to meet others who feel the same.

That being said, I definitely just like lift and carry in a lot of other ways, and the experience itself is just situational. personally, At the end of the day, whatever the purpose, it just feels nice to be lifted by someone.

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by AgentGucci

I think it’s way hotter when the girl is only lifting you instead of the bad acting in L&C vids when they try to be mean and aggressive that’s completely opposite of what we want, a submissive strong girl who can lift you is way hotter
Also whats even hot about a girl who hates you to lift you? (Most l&c vids that ive seen)

I think your idea of what domination is has been defined by the cartoonish bad acting in fetish videos.

What I was getting at when I started this thread is probably more about submission. When a person is lifted, they give themself to the lifter. Isn't that submission? Therefore the lifter is dominating them by default, even if the lifter isn't trying to DOMINATE them in the stereotypical BDSM sort of way. Subtle little acts of domination and submission happen to us every day that have nothing to do with BDSM or fetishes. That was my line of thinking.

But also...

What if, in an actual BDSM context, a dominant orders a submissive to lift and carry them and the submissive obeys? That kinda flips the roles, doesn't it? Or does the dominant submit to the submissive by trusting that the submissive will in fact obey?

If you drop your preconceived notions of what "domination" and "submission" are and look at where the submission actually is occurring, it's pretty interesting to dissect the dynamic.

[Hidddman]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

I think your idea of what domination is has been defined by the cartoonish bad acting in fetish videos.

What I was getting at when I started this thread is probably more about submission. When a person is lifted, they give themself to the lifter. Isn't that submission? Therefore the lifter is dominating them by default, even if the lifter isn't trying to DOMINATE them in the stereotypical BDSM sort of way. Subtle little acts of domination and submission happen to us every day that have nothing to do with BDSM or fetishes. That was my line of thinking.

But also...

What if, in an actual BDSM context, a dominant orders a submissive to lift and carry them and the submissive obeys? That kinda flips the roles, doesn't it? Or does the dominant submit to the submissive by trusting that the submissive will in fact obey?

If you drop your preconceived notions of what "domination" and "submission" are and look at where the submission actually is occurring, it's pretty interesting to dissect the dynamic.

Some lifting positions are more inherently dominant and submissive. ponyrides are almost always seen as a more submissive lift because it involves getting to your knees while an overhead lift or an ots is usually more dominant because it's a proud display of strength and will be seen as emasculating the liftee.

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hidddman

Some lifting positions are more inherently dominant and submissive. ponyrides are almost always seen as a more submissive lift because it involves getting to your knees while an overhead lift or an ots is usually more dominant because it's a proud display of strength and will be seen as emasculating the liftee.

Good points!

There's definitely a sliding scale with submission at one of end and dominance at the other.

[zebra]

I like domination in a somewhat playful way. Say that a larger woman lifts and carries a smaller woman against her will, but it's not hurtful or violent. The amazon would be dominant in a natural way due to her physical strength, so it's a realistic expression of dominance, not just roleplaying with scripts. I like it when it's real (a huge female bouncer effortlessly carries a struggling tiny drunk girl over her shoulder and out of a club, and the liftee can't do a thing about it).

[Tulipan]

Yes, it is about domination. But also it's about roleplaying.

[malik123]

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Originally Posted by zebra

I like domination in a somewhat playful way. Say that a larger woman lifts and carries a smaller woman against her will, but it's not hurtful or violent. The amazon would be dominant in a natural way due to her physical strength, so it's a realistic expression of dominance, not just roleplaying with scripts. I like it when it's real (a huge female bouncer effortlessly carries a struggling tiny drunk girl over her shoulder and out of a club, and the liftee can't do a thing about it).

I completely share this opinion!
In addition, the evolution of society has brought about a greater unity between men and women. Just look at what happens in sport, but also in everyday life. There is also a phenomenon of the evolution of the jigs. Many women are now taller and stronger than average men!
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