Is lifting always domination?

[xl]

i think is not domination when you lift a person for fun or when you ask for permission to lift her

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

Several people over the years have commented to me on L&C forums that to lift someone is to dominate them. I'm not sure I completely agree with that statement but after pondering it I have to admit they do have a point. When a lifter lifts a liftee, the liftee's body - their entire being - is placed in the possession and care of the lifter. At the very least, there is some amount of submission on the liftee's part to allow this, right?

On the other hand, if a liftee convinces someone who is not inclined to lift people to give them a lift, isn't the liftee dominating the lifter by making the lifter take possession and care of the liftee's entire being, not to mention making the lifter exert strength?

Keep in mind that while "domination" and "submission" make people think of BDSM, it can also be much more subtle and perceived subconsciously without either party actually intending to dominate or submit.

With all the liftees and lifters on this forum, there should be some interesting opinions on this. Please take note that this question is asked about the act of one human lifting another human regardless of either participant's gender. I expect you to follow my lead and give gender-neutral answers.

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by xl

i think is not domination when you lift a person for fun or when you ask for permission to lift her

When people hear "Domination" they tend to think of something dramatic. Think about submission though. If you ask to lift someone and they say yes, they're submitting. Sure, maybe they like it but even in the D/s fetish side of things subs like submitting and being dominated but reel that out, far outside of D/s into the realm of regular people interacting. A consenting liftee is submitting to the control of the lifter, letting the lifter take full possession of their entire being. There's a lot of trust there, which is at the core of submission, at least until you get to forceful domination and capitulation.

So if you ask a girl if you can lift her, you're asking to take possession of her body, the vessel that contains her entire being. You might playfully pretend like you're going to drop her or like you're going to put her into a trash can. Sure, you're not really going to but you're teasing her with a display of dominance and control.

It's a yin and yang thing or maybe like Newton's Law. Wherever there's submission, there's domination.

[xl]

absolutely true. it is a matter of balance of sensations. the lifter likes to lift a person to feel her weight and handle her as if she were a doll, on the contrary the litee likes to be lifted and feel as light as a doll. it is obvious that the lifter physically performs the action, the liftee can only trust the strength of the lifter. for this reason it can be considered domination, even when for example a person intends to demonstrate his strength by lifting another person.
It may happen, however, who takes pleasure in domination or submission that the dominator forces the submissive to lift him as long as he wishes.

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Originally Posted by TheWolfe

When people hear "Domination" they tend to think of something dramatic. Think about submission though. If you ask to lift someone and they say yes, they're submitting. Sure, maybe they like it but even in the D/s fetish side of things subs like submitting and being dominated but reel that out, far outside of D/s into the realm of regular people interacting. A consenting liftee is submitting to the control of the lifter, letting the lifter take full possession of their entire being. There's a lot of trust there, which is at the core of submission, at least until you get to forceful domination and capitulation.

So if you ask a girl if you can lift her, you're asking to take possession of her body, the vessel that contains her entire being. You might playfully pretend like you're going to drop her or like you're going to put her into a trash can. Sure, you're not really going to but you're teasing her with a display of dominance and control.

It's a yin and yang thing or maybe like Newton's Law. Wherever there's submission, there's domination.