What age does lift and carry start on average

[featherman]

For me, it stated at 4. Did it start the for you earlier, by then, or later?

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by featherman

For me, it stated at 4. Did it start the for you earlier, by then, or later?

For me it started around 3 or 4 I guess. It's like it's always been there.

I'm guessing by your name that you like to be lifted. I don't. I would see women being lifted on TV and I wanted to be able to lift them, too. When I was in high school, the cheerleaders got me into seeing girls lifting girls. I never wanted to be the liftee. That was always a feminine role in my mind so the idea of being treated like I'm feminine was always repulsive to me. Over the last 25 years of looking at L&C online my reaction to F/M has dulled considerably. It still doesn't do anything for me but "repulsed" is way too strong to describe my current reaction.

I point all that out because at the age of 4 it's pretty normal to be carried so I could see a liftee liking it and wanting it to continue. For me I was already repulsed by the idea of being lifted and resisted my parents when they tried to lift me. That seems a bit more severe to me.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

For me it started around 3 or 4 I guess. It's like it's always been there.

I'm guessing by your name that you like to be lifted. I don't. I would see women being lifted on TV and I wanted to be able to lift them, too. When I was in high school, the cheerleaders got me into seeing girls lifting girls. I never wanted to be the liftee. That was always a feminine role in my mind so the idea of being treated like I'm feminine was always repulsive to me. Over the last 25 years of looking at L&C online my reaction to F/M has dulled considerably. It still doesn't do anything for me but "repulsed" is way too strong to describe my current reaction.

I point all that out because at the age of 4 it's pretty normal to be carried so I could see a liftee liking it and wanting it to continue. For me I was already repulsed by the idea of being lifted and resisted my parents when they tried to lift me. That seems a bit more severe to me.

I also had a taboo against females lifting me when I was a boy. You and I might differ in that my taboo vanished, and I enjoyed it when larger or older girls lifted and carried me against my will. I don't mind F/M lifting. I just much prefer F/F lifting like I prefer steak to meatloaf.

[featherman]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

For me it started around 3 or 4 I guess. It's like it's always been there.

I'm guessing by your name that you like to be lifted. I don't. I would see women being lifted on TV and I wanted to be able to lift them, too. When I was in high school, the cheerleaders got me into seeing girls lifting girls. I never wanted to be the liftee. That was always a feminine role in my mind so the idea of being treated like I'm feminine was always repulsive to me. Over the last 25 years of looking at L&C online my reaction to F/M has dulled considerably. It still doesn't do anything for me but "repulsed" is way too strong to describe my current reaction.

I point all that out because at the age of 4 it's pretty normal to be carried so I could see a liftee liking it and wanting it to continue. For me I was already repulsed by the idea of being lifted and resisted my parents when they tried to lift me. That seems a bit more severe to me.

Being carried by a pretty lady, especially if she sings while doing it is very sexy for me. I’ve thought that since 4; a pretty maternal woman front lifting me while singing and giving gestures of affection is one of the sexiest things a woman can do. It started with my mom, and then I wanted other pretty women to do it.

[fredbloggs1969]

For me, it was when I was around 7 years old. I saw a large girl in my class lift her red-headed friend and carry her across the classroom. I had a soft spot for the redhead, and to see her easily carried had an effect on me that has stuck around for nearly 50 years. :-)

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by featherman

Being carried by a pretty lady, especially if she sings while doing it is very sexy for me. I’ve thought that since 4; a pretty maternal woman front lifting me while singing and giving gestures of affection is one of the sexiest things a woman can do. It started with my mom, and then I wanted other pretty women to do it.

See? You call it maternal. I'm not interested in a mommy. I rejected being babied when I was 3-4 years old. I found it insulting to be the recipient and embarrassing to be seen that way.

The part about seeing carry scenes on TV is also about being a grown-up man. It was like "Wow, men can carry women around like they're kids. I can't wait until I'm a grown-up so I can carry grown-up women like that."

I was already viewing carrying as something more than it actually is and I really don't know why I was so focused on it.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by TheWolfe

See? You call it maternal. I'm not interested in a mommy. I rejected being babied when I was 3-4 years old. I found it insulting to be the recipient and embarrassing to be seen that way.

The part about seeing carry scenes on TV is also about being a grown-up man. It was like "Wow, men can carry women around like they're kids. I can't wait until I'm a grown-up so I can carry grown-up women like that."

I was already viewing carrying as something more than it actually is and I really don't know why I was so focused on it.

I noticed a fad or a trend among some Millennial guys and Zoomer guys. They like material with GILFs in it, and some of them even seem to dig old crones. I like to see larger older women carry smaller younger women, especially if the former are authority figures like prison matrons. I don't want to see scenes from nursing homes, though!

[featherman]

Originally Posted by zebra

I noticed a fad or a trend among some Millennial guys and Zoomer guys. They like material with GILFs in it, and some of them even seem to dig old crones. I like to see larger older women carry smaller younger women, especially if the former are authority figures like prison matrons. I don't want to see scenes from nursing homes, though!

Zoomer men like dating older women. Here’s a hypothetical: His mom’s best friend for instance- she’s fawned over him since he was little. He’s had a crush on her, he fantasizes about ways to get close. If she’s single, during the guys adulthood, he might try to date her. I personally find that fun and amusing.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by featherman

Zoomer men like dating older women. Here’s a hypothetical: His mom’s best friend for instance- she’s fawned over him since he was little. He’s had a crush on her, he fantasizes about ways to get close. If she’s single, during the guys adulthood, he might try to date her. I personally find that fun and amusing.

We all have preferences. That's what makes this scene so interesting, and you never know what other lifting fans will prefer, and there are times when their preferences will perplex and puzzle you. Your preference is not one that elicits that kind of reaction from me, though. I mean, if you don't dig elderly amazons in an ALC.

[TheWolfe]

Originally Posted by featherman

Zoomer men like dating older women. Here’s a hypothetical: His mom’s best friend for instance- she’s fawned over him since he was little. He’s had a crush on her, he fantasizes about ways to get close. If she’s single, during the guys adulthood, he might try to date her. I personally find that fun and amusing.

I don't know that that's unique to zoomers but that age difference and the extra details you added in seem to take it to an extreme. There were loads of movies in the '80s with older woman scenarios. It's been the male fantasy for many decades but maybe not exactly how you described it.

When I was about 15 I had a buddy my age who made money mowing lawns and babysitting for people in his neighborhood. There was one mom I met who was a true MILF. She was probably 33-34 years old with a great body (probably 5'5"/120) and a pretty face with blue eyes and dark hair with the slightest touch of premature grey creeping in. Because I couldn't drive yet and because he had to be at her house on time, I went with him to her house and waited there for my ride, which is how I got to see her. She was all done up in a nice dress and heels with her hair and makeup done, ready to go out with her husband. She looked like a movie star. No, I didn't get to do anything with her and neither did my friend but we both wanted to. She made such an impression on me that I still remember her very clearly 45 years later. But that was just me being a guy and her being a very attractive chick. The age only factored in as a way to know that I was too young to even attempt it. If she approached me with naughty ideas I would have been very receptive; not because of her age or position as an adult but because she was hot and desirable. If anything her air of responsible adult maturity was a turn-off because it made it obvious that she would never in a million years put herself into that type of situation.

So here's a connection I never thought of until just now...

I love F/F L&C. Responsible, mature adult women generally don't lift and carry each other. That type of physically playful activity is in the realm of tweens, teens and partying sorority girls, then they settle down and outgrow it. Seeing women older than college age engaging in that sort of activity suggests that they still have a bit of that youthful, playful immaturity still in them and that makes them more attractive to me. A woman who can be responsible and mature when she needs to be but still be playful and girly when it's time to relax and have fun is perfection.

Seeing adult women engaging in F/F L&C seems like a good indicator of the presence of that youthful playfulness in their personality. They seem fun and like they don't embarrass easily if they're doing that in public or publicly posting images/videos of it. They're not stodgy and boring like the woman my friend babysat for. I don't think she played any direct role in encouraging me to like L&C but in hindsight she definitely helped shape my view of what I find attractive in a woman's personality because it's what seemed missing from hers.